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ASSIGNMENTPick one problem from the list below that no one else has picked. THE FIRST 10 PROBLEMS ARE RESERVED FOR LATE COMERS, AND MAY NOT BE POSTED UNTIL ALL THE OTHER PROBLEMS ARE CLAIMED. Some problems are grouped, but pick only one problem number. For 2 points, answer the question in a comment below. Show us how you got your answer. After you have solved your problem look at your neighbors' solutions.
24. ...order a drink from an ice cream parlor that offers three drinks, sodas, milk shakes, and blasters in three sizes, small, medium, and large, with 24 flavors. If you order one drink, how many choices do you have? 25. ...take DNA strands of 6 acids in length from an alien race whose DNA consists of 5 amino acids? 26. ...take DNA strands of 5 acids in length from an alien race whose DNA consists of 6 amino acids? THE SLOT MACHINE
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27. The smallest payoff is for a cherry on reel 1 with no cherries on reels 2 and 3. 28. The next smallest payoff is for cherries on the first two reels. How many ways can you win this payoff? 29. One of the jackpot payoffs is for melons on reels 1 and 2 and a bar on reel 3. 30. Another way to win the jackpot is with three melons. How many ways can you win this jackpot? 31. The next way to win the jackpot is with three bars. How many ways can you win this jackpot? 32. The last way to win the jackpot is with three 7's. How many ways can you win this jackpot? 33. Another payoff is oranges on reels 1 and 2 and a bar on reel 3. How many ways can you win this payoff? 34. Another payoff is three oranges. How many ways can you win this payoff? 35. Another payoff is plums on reels 1 and 2 and a bar on reel 3. How many ways can you win this payoff? 36. Another payoff is three plums. How many ways can you win this payoff? 37. Another payoff is bells on reels 1 and 2 and a bar on reel 3. How many ways can you win this payoff? 38. Another payoff is three bells. How many ways can you win this payoff? 39. In how many different positions can the three reels of the slot machine stop? Comments:From wHolt - 12/12/06 12:09 PM From BassLady - 12/11/06 8:21 AM
#38 - Another payoff is three bells. How many ways can you win this payoff? 40 ways. From wHolt - 12/9/06 10:39 AM Kathi - in your stems box i see a 2 and an 8. From Kathi - 12/8/06 8:38 AM 2^n where n = number of games. Sincer there are only 4 games n = 4. 2 *2 * 2 * 2 = 16 From wHolt - 12/7/06 11:16 AM DirtyBird - what does the second column refer to in your table?
List all the possibilities for your 3 switches in one table. Kathi - if you were to write your solution without the ^, From DirtyBird - 12/6/06 7:18 PM
There is not a medium state with power. You are either on or off. I dont see where you are saying there is 3 sources to the first switch. Thanks. From Kathi - 12/6/06 6:44 AM 2^n where n = number of games.
From wHolt - 12/5/06 11:40 AM Kathi - I cannot argue with a list that lists all the possibilities, From Kathi - 12/4/06 9:38 AM 23. ...watch a team win or lose the first four games of a World Series?
I can only find 16 ways that a team can win or loose the first four games. If the first team looses the first game there are 8 combinations in which the first game is lost. If the first team wins there is 8 combinations in which the first game is won. These tables show all possibilities if they lose the first game or if they win the first game.
From BassLady - 12/4/06 9:29 AM I have not finished my diagram yet. I am working on the radii. I have the stems figured out but not the other part. From wHolt - 12/3/06 1:11 PM BassLady - listing is always the sure to prove it!
Was there a faster way? Did you draw us a picture yet? Your flower or tree should show 1 choice for the first reel, 5 choices for the 2nd, and 8 for the 3rd? From BassLady - 12/2/06 8:18 PM #38 - Another payoff is 3 bells. How many ways can you win this payoff? There are 40 different ways to win.
From wHolt - 12/2/06 12:49 PM Cheana - thanks for your contribution,
but the first 10 problems are off limits till all the other problems are claimed From Cheana - 12/1/06 8:40 PM #4, You find five pairs of shoes in your closet that you can wear with your tops and bottoms. How many combinations of tops, bottoms, and shoes can you wear? 5*3*4= 60
From wHolt - 11/30/06 9:36 AM Soller - thanks for your contribution, Melewen - sorry about the mac incompatibility. From Soller - 11/29/06 7:36 PM ...3 shirts and 4 bottoms, how many outfits could I make? 4*3=12
From Melewen - 11/28/06 5:56 PM I use Mac, and I go through all three browsers I have if there's a problem with the applets: Safari, Firefox, and Internet Explorer. However, a lot of the applets don't work right on the PC in the computer lab in either of our academic houses. Very bizarre, but I usually find a way to work it out
From wHolt - 11/27/06 9:23 AM Melewen - are you using a macintosh? or a firefox browser?
From Melewen - 11/26/06 10:44 AM
My computer chops off the little text boxes, but stems says 1, 1, 1 From Melewen - 11/26/06 10:07 AM 32. The last way to win the jackpot is with three 7's. How many ways can you win this jackpot? There is only one 7 in the first column, so the options of getting a 7 in that slot is naturally only one. Similarly there's only one 7 in the second column, so again that possibility is one. It's the same for the third column. Thus, to find how many ways you can win this jackpot, you multiply 1 x 1 x 1 = 1 There is only one way to win this jackpot. From wHolt - 11/23/06 10:58 AM BassLady - I understand your ambiguity, almost. Some reels have duplicates, some do not.
From BassLady - 11/22/06 11:48 PM I will go back to my question of the 3 bells. My assumption was that if one person needed 3 bells to win and there is only 3 slots then there is only one way to win. I will follow your instructions of going back to the others to see how they counted.
From wHolt - 11/20/06 9:53 AM DirtyBird - I noticed that your diagram had 3 green stems. From DirtyBird - 11/19/06 8:09 PM Mr. Holt, There is not a medium state dealing with electrical circuits. I had the blue representing the on and off and the green is the flow of electricty coming into the switch. I dont know what I am doing wrong and how I dont see how there is 3 ways on the first switch. If you can help it would be helpful. Thanks.
From wHolt - 11/17/06 2:00 PM BassLady - i counted quite a few bells on the second and third reels.
Read how the others are counting in their problem. Assume Mr. Ollo decided his wardrobe each day by spinning the reels on a slot machine. He had his shoes listed on reel 1, pants on reel 2, and shirts on reel 3. The question might be: how many outfits can he wear with his dark pair of pants? From BassLady - 11/16/06 6:20 PM
# 38 = If one needs 3 bells to win then there is only one way to win off of one spin From BassLady - 11/16/06 6:11 PM 38. Another payoff is three bells. How many ways can you win this payoff? There is only one way he can win. If he needs 3 bells and there is only 3 positions - he only has one way to win. From wHolt - 11/16/06 10:36 AM Fro - what is the counting rule for all these problems and why did you use multiplication?
From Fro - 11/15/06 6:45 PM
31. The next way to win the jackpot is with three bars. How many ways can you win this jackpot? There are 3 bars in the first row (green), 2 bars in the second (blue) and 1 in the third row (red). That makes a total of 6 ways to win. 3*2*1=6 From wHolt - 11/15/06 11:58 AM BassLady - Mr. Ollo's closet is off limits till all the other problems are claimed.
From BassLady - 11/14/06 7:53 PM MR. OLLO'S CLOSET He can wear 10 different outfits. Lets say his shirts are pink, yellow, purple, red, and orange. His 2 pair of pants are blue and tan. #1 - Tan pants and pink shirt, #2 - Tan pants with yellow shirt, #3 - Tan pants and purple shirt, #4 - Tan pants and red shirt, #5 is tan pants with orange shirt. #6 - blue pants with pink shirt, #7 - blue pants wth yellow shirt, #8 - blue pants with purple shirt, #9 - blue pants and red shirt, and #10 is blue pants with orange shirt. From wHolt - 11/14/06 12:03 AM DirtyBird - your diagram indicates that you have 3 choices for the first light switch.
Does the light switch have a state between on and off, perhaps a medium state? Since you only have 3 switches, list all 6 possibilities. That's the sure way to convince us. From DirtyBird - 11/13/06 6:55 PM 12. ...click the light switches on and off in your home? 3 switches that move 2 ways= 6 ways
From wHolt - 11/13/06 11:37 AM GolfGirl - nice list, but how does it relate to your flower diagram? Trixie - thanks for the list and diagram, however Although, many of you are using the same method to figure your solutions, From Zonino - 11/12/06 10:37 PM 28. The next smallest payoff is for cherries on the first two reels. How many ways can you win this payoff? In order to win this payoff, the first two reels must be cherries and there must be no cherries on the third reel. Since there are no cherries on the third reel to begin with, this means that all 20 stops are possible. For Reel 1, there are two possible stops that have cherries and for reel 2 there are 6 possible stops that have cherries. Therefore, there would be 2*6*20 ways to have cherries on the first two reels or 240 stems.
From SkoolGirl - 11/12/06 7:52 PM 34. Another payoff is three oranges. How many ways can you win this payoff?
The green stems represent the 5 slots with oranges on the 1st reel. The blue stems represent the 5 slots with oranges on the 2nd reel. The red stems represent the 4 slots with oranges on the 3rd reel. 5*5*4=100 Their are 100 ways to win the jackpot with 3 oranges. From Draco - 11/12/06 7:10 PM 30. Another way to win the jackpot is with three melons. How many ways can you win this jackpot? There are eight ways to win the jackpot with three melons.
The green stems represent the first slot which contains two melons, the blue stems represent the second slot which also contains two melons, and the red stems represent the third slot which cotains two melons. (2*2*2=8)
From Trixie - 11/12/06 3:53 PM # 2 If you have 3 different tops and 4 different bottoms you have a total of 12 possible outfits to wear. (3 * 4 = 12)
From GolfGirl - 11/12/06 2:41 PM problem #1
From wHolt - 11/12/06 2:22 PM BassLady - Pringle already completed your choice. Pick another. Sushine - are there only 2 choices for the second digit? Houdini - you were not required to make such an exhaustive table Melewen - Sushine beat you to it. Pick another. Centerfield - you do not need to write the full number out all the way. From CenterField - 11/12/06 1:44 PM 20. ...assign a variable a name with 8 characters in a C program if a variable name may contain uppercase letters, lowercase letters, digits, and underscores? However, the first character may not be a digit?
Uppercase letters = 26 options Lowercase letters = 26 options Digits = 10 options Underscore = 1 option
Add the options together and you get 63 options for each position, except for the first position (no digits) which has 53 options.
You then multiply the total options for the eight places together…
53 * 63 * 63 * 63 * 63 * 63 * 63 * 63 = 2.08766E14 From Melewen - 11/12/06 10:57 AM 21. ...assign cell phone numbers if each number has 10 digits in this form: NXX-NXX-XXXX? The first 3 digits are the country's prefix. The X represents any digit from 0 thru 9. The N represents any digit from 2 thru 9. Could everyone alive now have their own phone number? 8x10x10x8x10x10x10x10x10x10 = 6,400,000,000 yes! everyone can have their own phone number. i will do the picture when i can get to a computer that will let me! From Houdini - 11/12/06 12:25 AM #39 In how many different positions can the three reels of the slot machie stop? One outcome, from three reels, with 20 different positions for each reel. 20^3 or 20x20x20=8000 There are eight thousand different outcomes. A table for all outcomes with reel one at stop one, using numbers and letters:
To show all possibilities you would need to repeat this table for every stop of reels one, two, and three. And now, my lovely Christmas-like drawing:
From Sunshine - 11/11/06 8:38 PM 21. ...assign cell phone numbers if each number has 10 digits in this form: NXX-NXX-XXXX? The first 3 digits are the country's prefix. The X represents any digit from 0 thru 9. The N represents any digit from 2 thru 9. Could everyone alive now have their own phone number? I figure n=8 possibilites times 2 places = 8^2 x=10 possibilites times 8 places = 10^8 10^8 x 8^2 = 6400000000 From BassLady - 11/11/06 8:08 PM 3 different drinks, with 3 different sizes and 24 flavors. Each drink has 72 different varieties. 1 (drink) x (3 sizes) x 24 flavors. 72 x 3 = 216 different drinks can be made. From wHolt - 11/11/06 7:45 PM Pac - are you confusing bases with slots? From 7Iron - 11/11/06 7:08 PM Here's the tree #22 There are 256 8 letter words in the Looloolo dictionary. There are only two letters in the dictionary. If there are two letters in the dictionary and we are only counting the number if 8 letter words you get 256. Also, Looloolo is included in this, since it is an 8 letter word. 2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2 = 256
From David - 11/11/06 4:45 PM 27. The smallest payoff is for a cherry on reel 1 with no cherries on reels 2 and 3. The path towards the smallest payoff (yippee) starts on the third reel, which must be a cherry. There are two cherries on the first reel. If you get one of the two cherries on the first reel, the second reel must not have any cherries. There are 14 stops on that reel without any cherries. finally on the third reel, you must not have any cherries. Good thing there arent any charries on the third reel, so there are 20 positions on the reel without cherries. Writing it out would be 2*14*20 ways to win the lowest payoff, or 560 paths.
From Pac - 11/11/06 3:09 PM So thinking about it again, perhaps my original thought was correct even though calculators and Excel won't help me find the answer... If you have six bases, you have 4 options for each, so you'd have 4*4*4*4*4*4 = 4,096 options for your six bases. If you had 6,000,000,000 bases, your number of possibilities would be so big that I don't think you'd want me to type it here even if I did have the life expectancy to figure it out. Therefore, here's an updated flower deal with 4,096 options...
From wHolt - 11/10/06 7:25 PM SuperDuke - you have rediscovered the Sierpinski triangle! Tiger - you need as many colors as you have stems. 7Iron - you would draw a tree if you put a 1 in front of all those 2's. From 7Iron - 11/10/06 9:45 AM #22 There are 256 8 letter words in the Looloolo dictionary. There are only two letters in the dictionary. If there are two letters in the dictionary and we are only counting the number if 8 letter words you get 256. Also, Looloolo is included in this, since it is an 8 letter word. 2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2 = 256
From Tiger - 11/9/06 9:31 PM #15 There are 6 places on a license plate. There are 26 letters in the alphabet and 10 digits for a total of 36 possibilties in each place. 36*36*36*36*36*36=2176782336
From wHolt - 11/8/06 10:58 AM Boki - Capricorn - Taurus - From Taurus - 11/7/06 6:17 PM 25. ...take DNA strands of 6 acids in length from an alien race whose DNA consists of 5 amino acids? I will be on an alien DNA strand, which will be made of 6 acids, which could be a combo of 5 amino acids. So there could be 30 different combinations.
From Capricorn - 11/7/06 6:07 PM 26. ...take DNA strands of 5 acids in length from an alien race whose DNA consists of 6 amino acids? If there is one DNA strand that has 5 acids, but could be of 6 differ acids, then the total amt of combinations per one DNA strand would be 30.
From Boki - 11/7/06 1:11 PM Thanks for help. Here are paths the bug can take: if he picks: 1 stem
: : : and so on up to : 8 stems It will make (1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8)(8*5) paths the bug can take. (1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8)(8*5)=1440. In general: n stems, each with 5 petals (1+2+.....+n)(n*5) or n stems, each with m petals (1+2+.....+n)(n*m)
From wHolt - 11/7/06 11:54 AM Boki - that's a lot of bug walking and a lot of brain talking. Now, where are the other 217 423 888 460 499 999 999 999 999 999 960 paths the bug can walk? From wHolt - 11/7/06 12:09 AM Pac - Poovey - your RADII and COLORS contain only 6 numbers. DirtyBird - assume you had 4 switches in your house. From Boki - 11/6/06 9:17 PM I guess I needed to multiply all of them. (8*7*5*4*3*2*1)(5*4*3*2*1) (7*5*4*3*2*1) (5*4*3*2*1) (6*5*4*3*2*1)(5*4*3*2*1) (5*4*3*2*1)(5*4*3*2*1) (4*3*2*1)(5*4*3*2*1) (3*2*1)(5*4*3*2*1) (2*1)(5*4*3*2*1) (1)(5*4*3*2*1)= 2.174238884605 x 10^32 Since10^32=100 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 we will have total arrangements of: 217 423 888 460 500 000 000 000 000 000 000 From DirtyBird - 11/6/06 8:29 PM 12. ...click the light switches on and off in your home? I have 14 switches in my house that move 2 ways each. So if I used 14*2 then that would give me 28 ways (14*2=28)to turn the switches on or off.
From Poovey - 11/6/06 6:37 PM 16. ...make 7 digit phone numbers if the first digit cannot be a 0 or a 1?
From Pac - 11/6/06 2:32 PM #17: How many ways can you make DNA with 4 bases G A C T and 6 billion slots to place them in? I tend to overthink things like this, but I think I've figured it out... At first I thought that 4 bases in 6,000,000,000 slots would be 4x4x4x4x4x4x4x4x4x4x4x (and on and on until you've got 6,000,000,000 4s) which would be a number so large that even Excel refused to display the answer in a whole number format. After thinking about it, the answer isn't exponential like that. There are four options per base and there are 6,000,000,000 bases. That's 4 x 6,000,000,000 = 24,000,000,000 possible combinations. I actually tried to get the applet to display that, but I didn't have any luck. I reduced the 6,000,000,000 to 6 per the instructions... 4 options in 6 bases = 4x6 = 24 possible combinations...
From wHolt - 11/6/06 2:00 PM I will subtract points if you do not explain why you did what you did. From wHolt - 11/6/06 1:58 PM Boki - perhaps you are counting the number of ways a spider can weave a web
from one tip to all the others without repeating any connection? But is that the same number of ways a bug can walk from the center to a flower tip? From wHolt - 11/6/06 1:55 PM You cannot claim a problem till you work on it!!!!
#12 is still open for grabs... From Trixie - 11/6/06 1:22 PM I claim #12, 11-6-06
From Boki - 11/5/06 9:27 PM The numbers 40, 39, 38, 37, ... were mistake. I thought only about petals (40 all together) and I didn’t count on stems at all; therefore, I get previous result which is actually the number of permutations of 40 petals only. will have (6*5*4*3*2*1)(5*4*3*2*1) choices, for 4th green stem we will have (5*4*3*2*1)(5*4*3*2*1) choices, for 5th green stem we will have (4*3*2*1)(5*4*3*2*1) choices, for 6th green stem we will have (3*2*1)(5*4*3*2*1) choices, for 7th green stem we will have (2*1)(5*4*3*2*1) choices, and for 8th green stem we will have (1)(5*4*3*2*1). combination as following: 1st green stem with its petals has (8*7*5*4*3*2*1)(5*4*3*2*1) choices: n1=4838400 Now we can add all of them together and get total number of choices by using following formula: Let n be a total number of choices, then we have: n=n1 + n2 + n3 + n4 + n5 + n6 + n7 + n8 =4838400 +604800 + 86400 + 14400 + 2880 + 720 + 240 + 120 = 5 547 960
From Harkar - 11/5/06 8:39 PM #13. ...roll three polyhedral dice with 4, 6, and 8 sides, respectively? Dice 1 has 8 possibilities; Dice 2 had 6; and Dice 3 has 4, so 8 x 6 x 4 = 192.
From wHolt - 11/5/06 2:54 PM JooJoo - edit your corrections in your comment. Dont want to mislead anyone.
From JooJoo - 11/5/06 1:54 PM Yes 72 is so off from the real answer because 24 x 24 x 24= 13,824 so there would be 13,824 ways to arrange the letters
From SuperDuke - 11/5/06 9:58 AM #19 is How many ways can you elect a committee of 50 people if each state may appoint either its governor or one of its two senators? 3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3=717897987691852588770249 you will make a choice of one out of the three people for each of the fifty states. This means you have 3 choices on the first state, 9 choices to reach the second state, 27 choices to get to the third state, 81 choices to get to the fourth,. . . when you choose the man for the 50th state you will have exhausted 717897987691852588770249 possible combinations of choices. My Rendering of this is done with only six states instead of 50 so that we can see the actual choices.
From wHolt - 11/4/06 2:02 PM JooJoo - nice drawing, but I think there more than 72 connections in it.
From JooJoo - 11/4/06 1:54 PM 18. How many ways can you choose 3 of the 24 Greek letters for a fraternity or soroity name? 24 x 24 x 24= 13,824 ways Because if you have 3 spots ex:) ABC then A could be 24 different letters and B could be 24 different letters and C could be 24 different letters, because you have 24 letters to choose from in the Greek alphabet.
From wHolt - 11/3/06 11:54 AM Boki - nice drawing. From wHolt - 11/3/06 11:48 AM Kathi - thanks for the table.
Now we have yours (8 ways) plus mine (8 more ways) = 16 ways. From Kathi - 11/3/06 9:07 AM In order to find all the combinations I had to start with a truth table. Since it ended up being a little big I will show only the options for if the team lost the first game. This gives us the outcomes for one object. Since there are 8 outcomes and 4 objects (games) the total would be 32 different outcomes for a total of 4 games. (8*4=32)
From Poovey - 11/2/06 3:55 PM oops...... I will continue to work on that!
From wHolt - 11/2/06 11:11 AM So Poovey, are you saying there are only 56 phone numbers?
From Boki - 11/2/06 12:19 AM 11. ...walk from the center of a wild flower with 8 stems to the end of a flower petal, if each stem has 5 petals? (Pretend you are a bug living in the middle of the flower.) = 3 100 796 899 200 possibilities to walk from the center of a wild flower to the end of a flower petal. or n1 x n2 x n3 x,……,x nk In this case n=40 (# of pedals, each of 8 stems has 5 pedals, all together 8*5=40), and r=8 (# of stems) 40P8= 40!/(40-8)!=40!/32!=40*39*38*37*36*35*34*33 = 3 100 796 899 200 n1 x n2 x n3 n4 x n5 x n6 x n7 x n8=40*39*38*37*36*35*34*33 = 3 100 796 899 200 From Poovey - 11/1/06 8:56 PM 16. ...make 7 digit phone numbers if the first digit cannot be a 0 or a 1? There are 10 digits to use, but not with 0 or 1 as the first digits so that is down to 8 to use in 7 different positions From wHolt - 11/1/06 11:42 AM If Slick's method works, we can check it by choosing a shorter test with say 3 questions.
If Slick's method works for a 20 question test , then it should work for a 3 question test. So 2*3=6 should be the number of ways to answer a true/false test with 3 questions. If however we could list a 7th way, we would prove Slick's method incorrect. If we can only find 6 ways, then we would validate Slick's method, even though we would not be proving it. From wHolt - 11/1/06 11:37 AM I see that Pringle's drawing contains 216 red stems, and Pringle's solution is also 216.
Is this a coincidence? Why are they the same number? From Kathi - 11/1/06 7:47 AM There are two ways to look at this question. If you are looking at each of the 4 games individually then: 23. ...watch a team win or lose the first four games of a World Series? If you are looking at the total of the 4 games and if the team will win then there are 5 outcomes: 1st outcome: Titans win all 4 games & lose 0 From Slick - 10/31/06 8:16 PM 14. ...answer a True/False test with 20 questions?
From Pringle - 10/31/06 10:36 AM 24...order a drink from an ice cream parlor that offers three drinks, sodas, milk shakes, and blasters in three sizes, small, medium, and large, with 24 flavors. If you order one drink, how many choices do you have?
24*3*3= 216 ( 24 flavors * 3 sizes * 3 drinks)
From wHolt - 10/30/06 11:00 AM Can you check your thinking by listing all the ways your answer says exists? From Boki - 10/30/06 9:33 AM 11. ...walk from the center of a wild flower with 8 stems to the end of a flower petal, if each stem has 5 petals? (Pretend you are a bug living in the middle of the flower.)
With 8 stems and 5 petals on each of them I (as a bug) have 8*5 = 40 possibilities to walk from the center of a wild flower to the end of a flower petal.
From Kathi - 10/30/06 6:43 AM 23. ...watch a team win or lose the first four games of a World Series? 4*2 = 8 There are 4 games and either the team wins or loses (2 choices). 4 games * 2 choices = 8 outcomes.
From wHolt - 10/29/06 11:41 AM
From wHolt - 10/29/06 8:31 AM Now that you have mastered everything there is to know about numbers, For the next 5 assignments you will discover new ways to count. Counting became important when people started owning property. This group of assignments will be worth 7 points each, Last Modified 11/20/06 10:02 AM | Hide Tools |
even though reel one has only 1 Bell,
it should be represented in your Stem box.
You only represented reels 2 and 3.