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Comments:From wHolt - 12/15/06 5:12 PM From BassLady - 12/15/06 2:45 PM
From wHolt - 12/15/06 10:15 AM BassLady - almost
except you ignored this: ~(A&B) should have a NOT on the output from A&B. why? ~(A&B) does not equal ~A & ~B. You did ~A & ~B. Fix. From BassLady - 12/14/06 8:50 AM
From wHolt - 12/12/06 12:05 AM BassLady - ~(A&B) should have a NOT on the output from A&B From BassLady - 12/11/06 9:33 AM
This is a conditional table. From wHolt - 11/11/06 12:09 PM BassLady - i dont see pipe B
or an AND block for the & also use Brian's applet for your table. it makes everything easier. From BassLady - 11/10/06 9:57 PM
From Poovey - 11/5/06 7:41 PM trying this again....... p->q=(a&-b)->(-a&-b)
From wHolt - 10/24/06 11:03 AM A simple edit will do. From DirtyBird - 10/23/06 7:54 PM Do you want me to redo it?
From wHolt - 10/23/06 1:20 PM DirtyBird SkoolGirl - OK except for some typos: From SkoolGirl - 10/23/06 1:42 AM
P->Q (-A+-B)->-(A+B) -p->Q -(-A+-B) + -(A+B) From DirtyBird - 10/22/06 12:11 AM P=>Q= (-A&-B) => (-A&B) -P+Q= -(-A&-B) + (-A&B)
From wHolt - 10/21/06 10:46 AM SkoolGirl- sorry I dont see the change. From SkoolGirl - 10/20/06 7:50 PM Yes you showed me already......I changed it!
From wHolt - 10/19/06 1:20 PM THE FOLLOWING WATER LOGICIANS EARNED 7 POINTS: 7Iron From wHolt - 10/19/06 1:18 PM SkoolGirl- did i show you this already? Butterfly - try the pipe game first. Soller - define your P and Q in terms of A and B Fro - thanks, we can now see what P and Q are. From 7Iron - 10/18/06 9:19 PM Do you mean I got this problem right by saying "welcome to the plumbers union?" From Soller - 10/18/06 9:03 PM
From Fro - 10/18/06 7:18 PM
P=~(A+B) Q=(~A+B) P→Q=~(A+B)→ (-A+B) P->Q= ~P+Q
P & Q don't apply because they are the same. From Soller - 10/18/06 7:12 PM
From Butterfly - 10/18/06 6:02 PM
From SkoolGirl - 10/18/06 12:32 PM
P->Q (-A+-B)->-(A+B) -p->Q -(-A+-B)->+ -(A+B) From JooJoo - 10/18/06 9:42 AM Here is my remaining table. Is this all else that I need to complete? -A +B -> -(-A + -B)
From BassLady - 10/18/06 1:32 AM
From wHolt - 10/18/06 12:14 AM Most of you are catching on very well. Cheana, Draco, Tiger, Zonino, Centerfield, LexiOwen - Good ones GolfGirl- ANDs require two inputs. Poovey - Bubba - start over. Reread the example in the lesson. SkoolGirl- diagram is good but you are confused on the not ~ label: BassLady - review your pipe rules so that blocks do not have 2 outputs. JooJoo- put your table with your diagram. someone may need your good example. From SkoolGirl - 10/17/06 10:02 PM
P->Q (-A+-B)->-(A+B) -p->Q -(-A+-B)->-(A+B) From Lexiowen - 10/17/06 9:43 PM
P->=-A+B->-(A&-B) -P+Q=-(-A+B)+-(A&-B)
From CenterField - 10/17/06 8:28 PM ![]() From Bubba - 10/17/06 7:47 PM
![]() From Zonino - 10/17/06 7:46 PM
P = A + -B Q = -A & B P->Q = (A + -B) -> (-A & B) -P+Q = -(A+-B) + (-A & B)
From Tiger - 10/17/06 6:03 PM
From Poovey - 10/17/06 6:02 PM
From Draco - 10/17/06 5:32 PM P=-A+B Q=-A&-B OUT=-P+Q
From Cheana - 10/17/06 5:28 PM
From GolfGirl - 10/17/06 3:16 PM
![]() From wHolt - 10/17/06 2:52 PM CatsEyes- your first NOT should input to the bottom OR. Slick and 7Iron - welcome to the plumbers union. From CatsEyes - 10/16/06 7:41 PM
From 7Iron - 10/16/06 5:48 PM P= (-A+B)
Q= (-A&B) P->Q = (-A+B) -> (-A&B) -P+Q= -(-A+B) + (-A&B)
![]() From Slick - 10/16/06 3:39 PM
P->Q (A+-B) -> (A&-B) -P+Q -(A+-B)+(A&-B)
From wHolt - 10/16/06 1:34 PM Fro - 7Iron - JooJoo - From Pringle - 10/16/06 1:01 PM
P : -A + -B Q : -A & -B P -> Q : ( -A + -B) -> (-A & -B) -p + Q : -(-A + -B) + (-A & -B)
From Sunshine - 10/16/06 10:00 AM
From Fro - 10/15/06 8:26 PM
P=~(A+B) Q=(~A+B) P→Q=~(A+B)→ (-A+B) P->Q= ~P+Q
From JooJoo - 10/15/06 2:11 PM
P-> Q= -A +B -> -(-A + -B) -P +Q = -(-A +B) + -(-A + -B)
From wHolt - 10/15/06 1:02 PM Phoenix- diagram good, but table wrong
Use Brian's truth constructor to tabulate ~(A&~B)+(~A&B) From Phoenix - 10/15/06 7:15 AM
P-->Q = (A&~B)-->(~A&B) ~P+Q = ~(A&~B)+(~A&B)
From SuperDuke - 10/14/06 9:25 PM
P=>Q = (A+~B)=>(~A&~B) -P+Q = ~(A+~B)+(~A&~B) Mr. Holt this appears correct to me. From Pac - 10/14/06 7:16 PM
P = (-A+B) Q = -(A+B) P->Q = (-A+B)->(-(A+B)) -P+Q = (-(-A+B))+(-(A+B))
From wHolt - 10/14/06 2:56 PM Slick - 0+1=1. You said 0+1=0. From Slick - 10/14/06 9:45 AM
P->Q (A+-B) + (A&-B) -P+Q -(A+-B)+(A&-B)
From wHolt - 10/13/06 2:16 PM Fro - nicely laid out pipe diagram.
However, ~A+~B does not equal ~(A+B) You should have checked before posting. And when you check, check (-A+B) => -(A+B), not P=>Q From Fro - 10/12/06 8:54 PM
P=(~A+B) Q=~(A+B) P→Q=(-A+B)→ -(A+B) P->Q= ~P+Q
From wHolt - 10/12/06 6:28 PM THE FOLLOWING WATER LOGICIANS EARNED 7 POINTS:
From wHolt - 10/12/06 6:25 PM Melewen - what are your P and Q? Copy table.
also that's P->Q , not ~P->Q From Melewen - 10/12/06 11:23 AM ![]() From Harkar - 10/11/06 9:02 PM
From Kathi - 10/11/06 12:28 PM P --> Q = (-A + B) --> (A + -B) -P+Q= -( -A+ B)+(A+-B)
From wHolt - 10/11/06 11:39 AM Thanks, Boki. You have proven that persistence pays off! 7 Points!
From Boki - 10/10/06 11:10 AM
Q= ~(AvB) P -> Q= (~A&~B) -> ~(AvB) P -> Q= ~P + Q
From wHolt - 10/10/06 10:25 AM Melewen - you cannot have 2 pipes coming out of a block. Boki - start over. copy your problem from the conditional page. From Boki - 10/9/06 5:56 PM
P=~A&~B Q=~(AvB) P -> Q= ~P + Q
From Melewen - 10/9/06 4:35 PM P -> Q = (-A + B) -> (-A + -B)
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From wHolt - 10/9/06 1:49 PM Seems you have the right ideas, but find this new symbolism awkward. Kathi - your first OR block has only one input. Fix. SuperDuke - (~A+~B) does not equal (~A&~B). Fix Q. From Boki - 10/9/06 11:48 AM P=~A&~B Q=~(AvB) P->Q=(~A&~B) -> ~(AvB) -P v Q= ~(~A&~B) v ~(AvB) P -> Q= ~P + Q
From Kathi - 10/9/06 9:57 AM
P --> Q = (-A + B) --> (A + -B) -P+Q= -( -A+ B)+(A+-B)
From wHolt - 10/8/06 12:05 PM Boki - your symbols here are confusing: -P -> Q =(AvB) ->~(AvB)
Remember: P->Q = ~P+Q Your negations are in the wrong place. Your table is miscopied also. Also , your diagram at the top shows ~A , ~B going into an OR block. What comes out must be ~A+~B which does not equal A+B. Rethink your table and diagram. The only reason you are getting this attention is that no one else seems to want to try. From Boki - 10/8/06 10:35 AM
P -> Q = (~A & ~B) -> ~(A v B) P=~A&~B -P=~(~(AvB))=AvB Q=~(AvB)
-P -> Q =(AvB) ->~(AvB)
From wHolt - 10/4/06 11:27 AM Thanks to Houdini for another fine example.
Everyone else needs to only post the last diagram, not all 4. From Houdini - 10/3/06 9:43 PM
P→Q=(A+-B)→(-A+-B) -P+Q=-(A+-B)+(-A+-B)
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Review the pattern, and what this exercise is supposed to do.